Lillly Evans' Notes

Notes from Lilly Evans

RAL Unconference 1st May

  • Cameron Neylon: practicing research scientist , biologists, ording research, involvement in Open Access movement
    • Issues re Rights mngmt
    • Potential for what happens when society is well connected
    • How self*org mtgs work
  • Lucy Power: how life scientists use internet for research* doing PhD @ Oxford
    • Oxford Open Institute
    • Add to discussion
  • David Humphrews: el.eng., AI, seen development of internet through its infancy
    • Interested as user self & children as they grew up
    • Left AI industry and went back to oil industry with s/w & networking
    • Came to this via LE & Twitter
  • Nava Whiteford: Cameron was his his supervisor, peer to peer networks, CS area
    • Universal access interest
    • How policies are formed
  • Howard Morrie: came through Twitter
    • All experience via automotive & finance industries
    • Looking at how different economy is now: was masculine and moved much more to feminine* big business does not understand it but has to learn
    • Works with medium size*business re business development: need for access in communities and towns is clear so broadband has to work well (low speed is a current problem in Cotswolds)
    • Universal access
  • Andrew McKensey: teaching in IT
    • Copyright & IP in new media
    • Right to Reply comment to Digital Britain involvement
    • Unconferences happening because of the medium
  • Lilly Evans: Org change, IT, education
    • experience with using internet from 1973 ARPA net,
    • involvement in Alvey directorate work
    • organizational change
    • control systems engineer and modeler
    • complex adaptive systems applications

What do we do here:

  • Infrastructure requirements
  • Where should public spending go: early stage to late life
  • Education system
  • Access principle: what are minimum conditions of satisfaction?
  • Policy document: how to encourage decent infrastructure
    • Not sure market will solve it
    • User is receiver of the system
    • We need the symmetric system: user can download & upload at the same speeds = Equal Rights for users and providers
  • Transport analogy
  • Current document trying to do too much in one place:
    • Need to structure discussion
  • Building scalable infrastructure
  • Schools availability of technology:
  • Principles:
    • Net neutrality enshrined:
      • Deals done by providers
  • Who can inspect what and why
  • No neutrality in research environment: hidden in deep web & not searchable
  • CURRENT REPORT IS ANTI NEUTRALITY
    • Equality of providers and users: rights
  • Upload/ download speeds
    • Web growth: with less money and more people we changed the game
  • Impulse for control to be curbed
    • Transparency
    • Mega*community
    • Lobbying on behalf of current players seems to have been prevalent
    • Who controls broadcasting
    • Rights issues:
      • Control impulse is the same for individuals as for companies:
      • People do not get that sharing is powerful
    • Change fear impact

LUNCH

  • Expected OutcomesExpected outcomes:
    • Areas to address:
    • No acknowledgement of existing business model
    • Privacy mentioned only 3 x = it is a principle that has to be fleshed out
    • Net neutrality statement: important for delivering on economic impact
    • This is what will deliver economic growth in the future
    • Place for emerging business models
    • New businesses need equal playing field (SME’s access)
    • We are doing this in the framework of the wider digital world
  • What is China, India, Japan, France etc doing
    • Legal impact
    • Impact of the EU telecoms access legislation
    • Trying to maintain the model of British Broadcasting while the rest of the world does not work like that any more
  • Reaching the audience
  • How does it work
    • We could all be broadcasters:
      • needs physical and social infrastructure to enable and exploit it
      • Infrastructure: Universal access (with reasonable speeds) with scalability built in
      • Britain to be magnet for new industries wrt of availability in the world without borders
    • We believe that as the report stands at the moment speeds stated are meaningless:
    • Net neutrality: wireless providers are already blocking some of the content
    • Simple licensing system for government data (Tom Watson, MP), cf Ordonance survey data being locked

Lucy left

  • The only sensible thing to do for data* when you want to re-use it –is to make them freely available
    • Examples collected by Duke University of economic benefit being much higher from open data
    • Example of private Genome data being freed up
    • Symmetry of the rights of content producers* users as well as those who are broadcasters
    • Same principle to apply to infrastructure
    • Legislative protection required: for individuals, globally for businesses
  • Evidence is that copying is damaging has been refuted by data
    • Report needs to capture that internet will destroy value and models in some ways but create opportunities in others
    • Rather than creating rights for what other people can do report should encourage ways for people to consider
      • Copyright etc are all ‘red lighting’
      • ‘green lighting’ like sharing etc are what we want to encourage
  • Report packaging should reflect the digital world* multimedia and hyperlinks at least
    • Wikipedia model for input with peer review produces informed debate
    • Universal provisions to be ensured by inspection that is independent from specific leading commercial interests
  • Numbers given have to be fleshed out in the policy document since as they stand they are meaningless: contention ratios, upload speeds plus line speed = level of service to users
  • Symmetric rights are here shown to be related
    • Principle of looking at the issues as interconnected and systemic
  • Enabling people to contribute where people are is essential => upload more important or at least equal to download
    • It is not the business of the government to interfere in the rights issues of licence holders
    • We have a legal and social problem, where government can speak up to rules of behaviour
    • Public money going into this would require the report to provide more reliable data that is accessible to users (transparency)
    • There is a whole class of applications of and on internet over and above the entertainment in the report:
    • SMEs and Micro-enterprises
    • Health applications and elderly monitoring require high upload speeds
    • Education: cf School of Everything or School of Life
  • Need to capture passion and interest to enable people’s engagement

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